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So something that's really cool that I did uh in the past week
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Is I went and saw
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The spider-man movie the new spider-man movie the intro to the spider-verse or into the oh
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I liked it. Oh
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Don't tell me anymore. It is very sad
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because
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spider-quen
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To death yeah, she dies to death
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You did not just and Peter Parker
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Also dies Peter Parker picked a peck of pickled peppers. I
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Swear if that actually happens in a movie. I'm going to be so pissed
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One person does have a spider-man costume on oh
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What do you mean?
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Like he's wearing the spider-man costume, so there's like a bad guy. He's like running around just like
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Doing shit
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So that's just Gwyn's fate. She's just she has to die
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I don't really think about that no because think about a Gwyn Gwyn usually does die yeah very sad
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I think one of my top two saddest spider-man movie moments ever Gwyn Stacy dying
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Mmm. Oh wait from an amazing spider-man. Yeah
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Yeah, that was pretty sad. Oh, I was tough. Yeah, to get through she got her back snapped in half basically
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There with me you stay with me
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Literally spider-man kills everybody trying to save her. I mean she was gonna die anyway
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She was headed for the concrete pretty fast. Yeah, but yeah
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Anyways in other news I tried a Starbucks is like new
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Coffee because they were handing out free samples of it at Starbucks new coffee new coffee
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What's it called?
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Aliyah, toh infused for Tana olive oil into Starbucks coffee
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Bravisimo
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Only after oh speaking of coffee don't forget to donate to us on Kofi for a cup of coffee
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Please we're thirsty
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Very thirsty it has I liked it a lot. I did not get the iced version
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I got the warm version typically I'm an iced coffee guy
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But they're only handing out samples of the like the warmed version, but I liked it a lot however
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I'm gonna warn everyone. Mmm. Hmm. It has olive oil in it the character from Popeye
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Yeah, all of
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Is there a full name olive oil? I think so olive. I thought it was olive oil. I
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Think it was olive oil. I'm not sure because you have spinach, you know olive oil
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And how was that? I?
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Again, I liked it a lot however I
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Have questions of if I were because you know I got like a tiny cup of it
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They're like do you want to try some free coffee, and I was like yeah, yeah
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Free that's all you have to say coffee free coffee. Thank you stranger in downtown, Seattle
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Uh
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She's even wearing a Starbucks unit. Oh shit. Are you sure that was coffee? No, I'm kidding. You're sure that was olive oil
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Yeah, so it was it was but um
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I'm just concerned about like consuming a lot of like espresso mixed with olive oil
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I'm not really sure what that's going to do to like one system
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internally
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You know I can only imagine it wouldn't be healthy
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But it is actually supposed to be healthy, so they're supposed. They're trying to like reduce the amount of creamer which is like
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Sweet sugary goodness and your coffee and replace it with olive oil, so it's supposed to be a healthy substitute
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I'm just worried about like another like bathroom target episode which
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Those of you that are fans of the podcast know what I'm talking about
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But with coffee
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Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're just covering all the morning beverages. Why don't you?
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It's just it's weird drinking olive oil. You know just now, but it was good. Yeah
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Also is free. I mean I'm always willing to try something. It's free like free stuff
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Yeah, like those guys. I like hand out the free CDs on this like street. I always take those those are so good
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I always seem to be like I'm not sure what that is
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Like street I always take those those are so good always seem to get a virus on my computer afterwards
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But I don't think that's related speaking which
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They don't know but we got we went to snow home ish pride, and we're back now. I mean they do know
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I mean they do know but okay, so
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Let me read we see if you don't know means you aren't watching and if you're not watching
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You have to go sit in the corner, but yeah, we uh
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It's no how much pride prayed. How'd you feel about that?
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It was so it was great
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It was a lot of like hurry up
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You have to be here by this time and then you're gonna like stand in the sun for like three hours not moving
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Bake for a little bit. Oh, yeah waiting for that parade to start up was oh yeah, it was a long waiting game
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All right, we got to see a protester get arrested. Yes. Oh, yeah, that was fun
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Yeah, apparently he
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Slapped an umbrella out of somebody's hand
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I also heard that because you know he did have like a loudspeaker attached to him if you remember yeah, so the
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Security and police told him that he was not permitted to use his loudspeaker
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And then he like repeatedly kept trying to use it
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Oh, and then a family got upset because he evidently was using profanity at
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Like a family with children. Oh wow and they're like stop
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And then supposedly and this is all like I'm not reading official police reports. This is just what I was told
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Supposedly he like chest bumped a guy
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He was getting very uh, he was getting primitive there. He's getting like really aggressive
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I think we finally got to see like the last straw where he like knocked someone's face
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He like knocked someone's prideful umbrella out of their hand and then got arrested
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Yeah, it sounded like he was escalating. It was escalating
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I it almost seems like to me like he was trying to get arrested be like a martyr like yeah, I got arrested
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Either either way he was there not to be heard. He wanted to fight with somebody about something. Yeah
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It didn't seem like there was an abundant amount of people
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being there trying to
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protest against our
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Parade or are just just us having it's literally just have us celebrating us and having a good time
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I think I think it was like speckled
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Around and I think like we very much stayed kind of like in the epicenter of gayness
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So we like didn't see a whole lot, but I know
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one of my friends that did go she said um,
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truck full of like guys pulled up next to her and started yelling at her to
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like she should go kill herself and oh my goodness, we should all die and
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You
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Anything trigger warning? Yeah
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Mmm, usually a trigger warning comes before that. Yeah, you do that before well, it's like dr
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Strange, you know, dr. Strange said like why is the warning at the end of the book? Yeah
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No, so she she said that you know, she almost like turned around just went home, but she like
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Kind of like took a deep breath like reported them to the police and then continue just
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Stay out and have a good time. So well, that's good. I'm glad it didn't ruin anyone's time
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It's just people being stupid and ignorant. Yeah
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When I hear when someone does that to me, it just reminds me of an immature person just trolling online
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in online games
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Yeah, I don't probably the same person actually. I don't really get it
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Um, so like the the protester that got arrested obviously he had like the religious sign
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And I I did hear him saying that we were all gonna burn in a lake of fire
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um
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Just like news flash out there for everyone
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If you approach a situation like that and your goal is to try to convert people to your religion
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That approach is never gonna work like no one's gonna be like, oh my gosh
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Oh my gosh
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Yeah, sign me up. So let's go to your church. I don't know
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But I think the majority of people's response to him was actually really surprising
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So you had the religious person that was spewing hate
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Just pure hate and then the whole parade was like clapping and cheering and chanting like we love you
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Yes, I was like it should be the other way around right? I thought like
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The the religious people were supposed to say like oh we love you. Yeah, I know right? I don't know we're
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Yeah, love thy neighbor, right? Isn't that in the bible? Wait. No, it's hate thy neighbor. Oh, I'm sorry
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I'm sorry. I'm not well studied in it. So I wouldn't know no, I'm not you. Yeah, he came there to save us
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From
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What was it again diabetes from all the free candy?
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Yeah, there was a we did give a lot of free candy
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We had good candy too. Yeah, they they should have made signs about like too much candy
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Do you want to keep your feet if so change your ways don't eat candy
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Oh man candy. Yeah, we did pass out some good candy, but
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Yeah, I I didn't see
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I like oh no
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I actually did get nervous when I did see the guy with the like he was wearing a cowboy hat and some shades and he
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Had a bulletproof vest on under his shirt
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Remember seeing him?
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Yeah, is that necessary? Well to be fair, we do not know it was bulletproof
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I think it was more like tin foil to keep like the rainbows from penetrating him. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah
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He did if he wasn't wearing that protective armor and gear
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He would have definitely it would the parade would have turned him gay. Oh, yeah like
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guaranteed
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The shades the cowboy hat the mil the combat boots all necessary
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Oh, he was he was trying to like protect his
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Masculinity right there very much. So
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Very much. So I'm just curious how much this
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Experience that we had contrasts with other places
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You know like we we witnessed a protester get arrested and carried off, you know
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whereas
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some areas completely canceled pride altogether because
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Yeah, they were afraid of too much hate monger showing up and violence. Yeah
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It just makes me wonder what Seattle Pride's gonna be about and by the way, we might be at Seattle Pride
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That might be oh, we're gonna go. Oh, we're going it's gonna be a great party. It's gonna be a good party
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I'm excited. I'm gonna drink so much water at that party. Are you wearing your fishnets this time?
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I don't know sunscreen
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That's all I gotta say complain about tan lines, but sunscreen oddly. I'm not like super worried about the tan line
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It's like more so just
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wearing
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Fishnets, I don't know. I've never done it before. Yeah
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Yeah, like we said before
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If you wear fishnets and booty shorts
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expect to be flirted with by men
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But if I wear a collar though, people know that I'm already owned and then they won't approach me
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Maybe I'm kidding
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Some might get confused and be like, oh you want me to leash you then?
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Yeah, I could see the confusion yeah, I don't know I don't really know what I'm gonna wear I mean all our calling
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well
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You know what? We're gonna be wearing
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You know what we're gonna be wearing for our shirts, right?
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Yes, we are gonna be wearing our new sponsor t-shirts the ones I made
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Actually, we're getting new ones because our new sponsor is Puppensuds
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What Puppensuds? Puppensuds. Really?
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What's that? That was like a blink
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No, not blink brink
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Disney movie reference. Oh
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Did you guys see that movie the it's like
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Mid 90s. It's a movie about rollerblading, but it's kind of like the whole skate culture mentality
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No, I haven't seen that
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It's like so
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Wait, do we don't have a sponsor? We don't have a sponsor not yet, but
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Um, I'm gonna start applying for some sponsors so that we can at least like cover the cost of our podcast
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You know what's crazy about that parade?
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Is when they announced us before they announced us they said that there was
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What 2.5 billion people online watching us?
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Yeah, what was that about? What was that about? Was that a joke? Did they say where did you ever find that out?
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It's supposed to be like from their website, but I'm not too sure about that. They're
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Their rig at least seemed very official. So maybe
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Somebody was there capturing video. Yeah, so we need to find out
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Where it is and how we get it who yeah, who was that that was doing that? They had a really good setup
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Yeah, I will say
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Not super
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Organized that was kind of chaotic. Yeah. Yeah
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You know, they're trying to wait for everyone to get together. It's usually a weekend
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Not everyone's gonna be like, you know
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Up and at them like that, you know
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This was also their first event. So I'm sure I'm sure they're
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Taking notes for next year and how to make it more fluid for their first event though
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Good. It was good. I I'm impressed. They had a lot of vendors
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They had activities for younger people to do like they had like rock painting and all kinds of fun stuff
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You didn't even see that area. Did you that was like the front little grassy area right by the library?
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I think I saw the rocks and I was just like, you know, just rocks aren't my thing
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You know, like yeah, even in pokemon like the whole brock thing. I was like, okay cool. You're rock cool. Yeah
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rock rock
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Come on now. That's just like lazy writing
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Well, it's cuz he's the rock type gym leader, you know, yeah I get it. Yeah
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I'm sorry. I had to explain it
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I love brock
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No, but it was uh, I like that. It was a good time. Yeah, I I would like I guess um, if I had to give some feedback
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I would say
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Those of us that are in like the adult realm
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Maybe not sandwich them in between like a church group and a preschool. Yeah, that's something I did point out to them
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I was like, hey, um
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You know, we talked about like walking with somebody else
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Um, yeah, I'm like no like this is this is the list. I'm like, well, we're like a like
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I literally was like we're a bdsm podcast uh in between like a church group and a preschool
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Can someone put a little bit of?
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Thought into this
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Yeah a little bit
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They're like this is this is the list. Sorry. We can't change the list
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I was like, okay, it just might be a little awkward. Yeah, that was it was it was it wasn't that bad
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Anyways, uh talking about brock. He was the the pervy one
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On pokemon, right? He's the one that just wanted it. He wanted to bang nurse joy
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How could anything be terrible when it's what brought me to you?
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And he wanted to bang officer jenny, yeah, he wasn't interested in missy he wanted the older women
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The older women reporting is this where the theft occurred if you mean you're stealing away my heart then yes. All right
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He's really into uh, professor oak. Oh, no, i'm just kidding. Wow
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I was like, was that like a later season? No. Yeah, they're really progressive now
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Yeah, I just stopped watching after like season 40 when when jesse when james dressed up as a woman
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He was really in a well actually wasn't he?
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Uh, then he saw the clip that I remember seeing james had legit boobs in one of the brock fall for him
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Like wasn't that a thing in that episode?
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Yeah, the
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The only thing that's coming up is like quote
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brock being a simp for six minutes and 35 seconds
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I can't see for like brock falling in love with uh james. Well
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Yeah, we would have to watch the entire james episode
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which
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We totally have time for right now
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Let's watch it live. No, okay. We'll do it live
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I don't think why are we talking about james titties?
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I don't know. I personally I think really jesse
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I always had a thing for like female villains
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That's true poison ivy poison ivy catwoman
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Well, obviously catwoman
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We know why
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And you do too
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Don't go watch the movie
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Or literally anything with catwoman just just go to amazon look up a catwoman
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Halloween costume just google catwoman latex
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harley quinn
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Harley quinn definitely. Yeah
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Oh, yeah, quinn was but uh, we're getting sidetracked again. Yeah. What were we talking about? We're talking about the snowman's pride
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
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I think um the amount of people that showed up was phenomenal. Oh, yeah, the amount of security they had
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phenomenal
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Uh the activities that they had wow a lot of great things a lot of great things
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What was your favorite part? I guess just like the support right?
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So just like walking down like downtown just home-ish and just seeing like everyone like cheering and happy and
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Yeah, like entire families are there with like children and you know, it's
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Yeah, very warm and welcoming environment. Yeah, that's what I really liked. Everyone was just
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Hi, happy to have you here. Yeah
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So it's like what like five angry people?
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and then like 600 happy joyful people
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Yeah, yeah, it just felt like everyone was getting the other it felt like celebrating a holiday, you know, yeah
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Everyone was just buying cool little knickknacks, you know
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Coloring rocks. There was like a a bus there with
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books
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that um
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Like if you had kids you could go up there and get um and buy books and stuff
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Which was really cool. Not just for children. I've seen that bus at like several different. Are you kidding me?
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Yeah, it's so epic. Oh my god. I should have went on there
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I think last time I saw them they were at octoberfest
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Really? So they do have they have books for all ages. Oh, yeah
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I mean, maybe they might be at seattle priden. They may have had they probably will they may have had
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the new book that
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I'm actually going to be reading
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The new book that i'm actually going to get soon, which is page boy
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Oh, yeah, elliot page came out with a new book. I'm a huge supporter of elliot page. Yeah, he's great
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great actor so
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Back to what I was talking about
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What?
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Which was the fact that seattle prize is gonna be different. Yeah, it's gonna be different from what we experienced as nahomish
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Yeah, i've heard it's a little bit more adult
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Yes. Yeah people
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have told me like jay
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If you don't at least wear booty shorts, they're probably not gonna let you near the parade
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Those are the exact words if you don't at least wear
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Shorts. Oh like what if you look like a a cis straight guy? Yeah
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Yeah, you got to spice it up to get close to the parade
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They're like you gotta wear like fishnet like maybe a fishnet top a collar. Maybe some like nipple clamps
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Yeah, and that's yeah, it's like an access badge at that point. Yeah, they're like well hold up
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Hold up. Hold up. You look a little straight
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So I will say I have already seen quite a bit of
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lgbt
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Community members making like youtube videos saying that you know
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kink and bdsm they do not belong and
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Pride parades and then like them showing like clips and then being like
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Shouldn't be welcomed. This is disgusting
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blah blah blah blah
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blah blah blah blah but
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I would say it's not so much of a kink and bdsm thing
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it's more like a
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um
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Public indecency thing. Yeah, because you can you don't have to be kink and
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bdsm to
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You know be naked and like the guy that you said the last episode like wearing like a bow around his like
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like yeah
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Um, this also happened in vancouver though
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So like I don't I don't know canada law. I barely know american law
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Like it might be it may be allowed there
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Yeah, but I think my point is like people like to specifically target the kink community and like this is disgusting
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Like no shouldn't be allowed like, you know, keep that in the bedroom and stuff and i'm like your your issue is not with
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kinky people it's like with
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You seeing adult stuff in the street, which is not just king
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They're not focusing on the fact that these are people exposing themselves in public, right?
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You know like at a public event you
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Honestly with breast I I think that I have a personal opinion on that matter
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Like I think breast should be free and open for everyone to see but obviously everyone has their own opinion and currently in a lot
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Of places that is a private area
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So if you're out in public at a public event that shouldn't be exposed, you know
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And if it is that's just someone doing indecent exposure
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And that's how it should be treated. It shouldn't be like oh
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The gay community. Oh, that's all they do. They like to get naked at their pride parades
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You know the kink community. They just like to display their kink no matter what doesn't matter who's around
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No, those people are being indecent
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And um
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Um, there is places and events where you can
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You know display that in the at the event, but there's places and events for that
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Yeah, and when you're coming to a very public event
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where
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News companies might be their families children's or children children's
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funny, um
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They you can't be
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You can't be doing that even if no matter how proud you are of your nude body
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It doesn't matter because it's not appropriate
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and
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That is that is and like I said, that's the problem is people are focusing more on the group
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Instead of that person just doing something inappropriate. Yeah individual people breaking the rules. Yeah, you know
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I think um, like for me
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when it's like oh you should be like
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Because i'm going to try to play like the devil's advocate. You're like, oh you should be like
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You should have pride for like the bdsm community. You should go out into the streets and you should show that
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Yes, okay
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Maybe i'll wear a collar
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Maybe like i'll fly like, you know the the leather flag exactly behind me
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i'm
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I'm not going to be like crawling around like on my hands and knees and getting like whipped in like the middle of the streets
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Yeah, and if you want to do that, there's literally events where you can go do that and there's going to be only adults there
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Yeah, and this is things that we need to as a community all of us bdsm community
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the gay community we need to be aware of because
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Now our events are more in the public eye and that's the change here is that?
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News companies a lot of major companies like bud light, you know all these you know
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Brands are coming out to these events bringing cameras and the more cameras the more social media exposure
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the more young people young minds can see this consume this and
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It's and then like I said it becomes where at an event you can't you can no longer be nude
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You can no longer do these kinky like such kinky things
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You need to keep it
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PG-13 because
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Everyone is seeing this now. It's no longer just our community. Just adults are seeing this, you know, yeah
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Everyone wants to celebrate people are
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proud to be gay
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from all ages all
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everywhere, so
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It's it's up to the individual to
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You know be responsible and abide by those rules that way our community as a whole doesn't get hurt
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you know
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Yeah
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I have nothing against nudity at all. I just I just think there's
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There's an appropriate space for that
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Time and a place there's a time and a place for that
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a lot of people at pride are there to be
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They just want to exist in a public space that's praising them I think you know
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yeah, and
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Somewhere where you can go where you could be proud to be who you are and
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Not everybody's there to like
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expose themselves and
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you know try to hook up with everybody and
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That's a whole other topic I guess
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Yeah, some people just want to be like little cat girls and just play around with some catnip
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And that's okay
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No, no, then that's totally okay. That is actually there's not plenty of catnip
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There's no nudity in that
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Something inappropriate about that there can be
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So many inappropriate things cat girls can do like lap of milk
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from a bowl
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So Jay, yeah, snow homish was your first
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Pride event like we're saying
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What do you think? What are you expecting to see at this?
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Seattle one. I know you mentioned how
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You're going to have to wear booty shorts to enter into the parade
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What else are you feeling about this like
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Are you feeling like it's gonna be as wild as everyone says it is? Yeah, so like right now in my head. I'm picturing like
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Burning man, but running through the streets with more rainbows
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Hmm wait, what's burning man again?
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Yeah, we never went to burning man, she's kidding right, but you know what it is though
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No, I don't actually is that the
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The festival like out in the desert where everyone does like is that the thing where they poured bees all over nickel's cage?
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What is that? What is that? What is it?
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Oh, no, not the bees not the bees
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Oh, no, not the bees not the bees. Ah
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Oh my eyes my eyes
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That's the wicker man
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i'm like
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Somewhat ashamed to know like that reference why nicolas cage is a hero
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he was really great in that movie, but
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I don't know if you guys have seen it but it's a really good movie. I think it's a good movie
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I think it's a good movie. I think it's a good movie
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So wicker man and burning man are two different things. No, but wicker man could be set on fire really easily
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So they're the same thing now. So burning man is that okay? I think I know what it is
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It's where they do psychedelics in the desert
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and a lot of people
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Burning man, you're really focused on the nicolas cage movie
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I love nicolas cage burning man is where
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Um, he like steals like an airplane and he's trying to get to his kid in time for christmas. So the one with the bunny
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Yeah, put the bunny
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back in the box
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My favorite one was when he swapped faces with john travolta
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Yeah, it had a little face off there
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Apparently there's a version of that movie where they used ai to give both of them nicolas cage's face
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I really want to watch that nice
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Yes, finally ai something for something good sounds like a nightmare
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I mean, I'd watch it. Oh, wait. Did you say they're both nicolas cage's face?
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Cages face. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. I thought you said they're both john travolta's face. I was like, ah, that's a nightmare
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so
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It is pride month
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if anyone out there is
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questioning
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Am I trans or maybe I am trans?
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What advice can you give them right now? First off you need to do research
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um
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Look up youtubers podcasts that have trans people in it try to relate to them if you have things that relate to them
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That's that's a good start
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I mean, yeah, anytime someone approaches me
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and says
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I'm questioning, you know
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What should I do?
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Where should I go first? I list like a bunch of resources that they can find on the internet. But um, ultimately
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I try to advise that they talk to somebody that's a professional that can
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handle that topic and help them navigate in their own mind like what that means for them because
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Like i've said before everybody's different being trans means
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something different to
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most people
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So that's that's really between them and their therapist
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You know to try to figure that out
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youtubers
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podcasts
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um
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Just I mean we were talking earlier
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uh elliot page writing a whole memoir on his life so
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books
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It's just there's a lot of resources. Um
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That can be had nowadays to more than ever. Yeah, you just google
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I think i'm trans
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And there should be stuff there
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Should be stuff there for you, you know
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I was um, I was sitting in a conference
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This week this past week
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I kind of like took a picture of like some like a little infographic here
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So members of the lgbt
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Qia plus community are 2.5 times more likely to experience depression anxiety and substance abuse
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And are four times more likely
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um
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to attempt suicide
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and
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I think
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For a lot of us it's not needed
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right
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Because you should reach out you should try to talk to somebody so for instance last month was mental health awareness
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And I know this does not apply to everyone out there
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um
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but I kind of looked into my employer and
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They offer through my employer
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They offer 12 free therapy sessions every year
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free and then I looked at my insurance and
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My insurance after those 12 free sessions, it would only be like 20 dollars per session to continue seeing the therapist and I know
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You know, well you're in washington state like mental health is like very, you know, it's valued a lot higher out here
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Uh, but I would say like there are resources out there that people just don't know about. Oh, yeah
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I totally agree with you. I think a lot of times it might be
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A stigmatism of like wanting to go talk to somebody right? Like none of us we we don't want to feel
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Weak or like something is wrong with us
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Well, and also some of us just have trust issues like i've been when I was younger
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I had therapists that
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uh told me my
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Gay thoughts and stuff were wrong
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And that they were bad for me and stuff like that and like when you have experiences that like that when you're young you don't
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want to ever
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See a therapist again, even though that therapist wasn't the right one for you when you're finding a therapist
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It's like it's kind of like I I see it as like shopping for car insurance
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You're looking for the right fit for you. Not every therapist is a right fit for you
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It's it's um, you're looking for the one that has the best costs. Um, you're looking for the one that gives you the
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Greatest benefits the greatest tools to help you with whatever you're going through
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Um, and that's something I learned over time is that you don't just
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Call therapists and you stick with them you you shop for a therapist
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Yeah
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You can also kind of do a little bit of research into that person and see if they're like an ally for instance
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And if they're like kink friendly
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Um, and then you can also just kind of probe right? So oh, yeah, like um, for instance
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When I saw that I had 12 free therapy sessions. I was like, well, fuck it. I'm gonna use it
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um, and I kind of like
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Through something like bdsm. I did some research on the person first and I threw something bdsm out there
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And she was kind of like oh well
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There's nothing wrong with like bdsm as long as it's like safe sane and consensual
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um, you know that
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You know, it's perfectly normal and fine and I was like
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Oh, we're gonna get along. Okay. Okay
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Exactly
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But yeah, but I think um, you know if she would have been like, oh, yeah
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Like we need to talk about bdsm like maybe dig into that a little bit deeper and try to figure out like
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What's wrong with you or something? I'd be like
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Yeah
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Um, I think that's a common misconception with therapy is uh, uh
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You have the choice to pick your therapist
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like you don't have to let that be picked for you because
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it's for your mental health and your well-being and
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Who better to know?
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like
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About you than you, you know, like
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Um, you know who like the people you like you know
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How you want to be talked to and how you want your problems handled?
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Then find that person that does it
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that way
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Because therapy is good for everyone. Everyone should have a therapist
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I will also say that
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You know don't just always agree with your therapist like kind of like reflect and see like does that is that actually true?
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Like does that resonate with me?
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because
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whenever like previously in therapy
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if someone said something like oh like do you think it's uh, blah blah blah and
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It's either like in an instant like oh shit. You are right. Yep, or it's kind of like a
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Uh, you know, i'm not really sure about that
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Well, I think some people go to a therapist and they're like, I don't know. Tell me what to do and the therapist
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Is like that's not my job. Yeah, I can give you advice on what I think you should do. Yeah
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Here you go
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Even if you're using therapy as just like venting
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It's healthy. Yeah, it's healthy to have someone that's not in your life at all
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To listen to your problems because they can give you an unbiased opinion
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They can be like hey, you know, you're kind of being a little ridiculous or they can be like no you
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You I I agree with you totally, you know, like you're not being ridiculous. You should be asking for this and that you know
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Therapy is great. It's just healing
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And i'm not saying and and that's another misconception is that once you get therapists you have to see them all the time all the time
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You can go for a couple sessions
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Take a break
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Go back for a couple more sessions take another break
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That's their profession they're gonna be there
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So therapy, yeah therapy we advocate for therapy brought to you by therapy
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No
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But for as far as like people thinking that they're trans and
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Coming out. I know whenever I was questioning that I started
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Talking to trans people interacting with more trans women because I I thought I was a trans woman
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um and watching um
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A lot because back then we didn't have you couldn't just google i'm trans. What do I do?
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Like this was like 10 years ago 12 years ago
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um
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So we had to find other people
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back then we had youtube youtube definitely had a lot of trans creators and I
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Consumed a lot of youtube and I just went into a deep dive as we say into
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Trans creators in youtube. They all had things that related to me, you know as far as like
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questioning
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Whether or not I wanted to be a guy, you know, it's just
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When you find people that you can connect with
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You're it's like holy crap. I'm not weird
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I'm not the only one
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You don't feel like it's some kind of weird alien or something
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And after that i've not that's why I went to find therapy
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Because I wanted to confirm what I found
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Yeah, it's nice to know that other people
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Like you and the world exists it's
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Feels a little less alone. Yeah
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Therapy can be intimidating it was for me
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So that's why I went for youtube creators and watching other trans women that are in the public eye and seeing
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Trying to compare my life to theirs
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And then from there you can go like well, you know, I think i'm trans I need a therapist
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It's baby steps don't just
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Pop the hormones in your mouth right away
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00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,320
the egg days
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Yeah, we call them eggs
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I remember being an egg me too. Yeah, I think um, I think in general people
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There's a huge like stigmatism against like mental health. Um
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I know like I was raised that you think oh, yeah, I know
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But I was definitely raised that like men we do not talk about our feelings
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Like it's more acceptable to go and like drink it away and bury it deep inside
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But like you should never show weakness and you should never
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like talk about your feelings like
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But it's just not healthy, you know, and I I think society is changing
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But it does start with us. I think like the more people that
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Like and also be open about it. Like hey, you know what? Like yeah, i'm going to therapy
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Yeah, and you know people might be like what you why like
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How does that work? You know, you kind of like open up like other people's eyes to
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Like therapy is not yeah, you don't have to be there's not have to be an issue with you. Yeah, I like
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That's so funny that that's where we're at with therapy and
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This social stigmatism around it that when you say you're having that you're going to a therapist people are like what's wrong?
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00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,480
There could be literally no
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00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,680
There could be literally nothing wrong and you see a therapist
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00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:02,720
Just a vent about your daily life stress, which is completely healthy and I have contemplated doing it many of times
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Because you don't want to dump all your stress inventing feeling vented feelings on a friend. They don't want to hear that
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00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000
And if they are you're gonna hear theirs in return
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I mean sometimes your friend wants to hear yeah, that's true, but not all the time good friends
606
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No one will no one will listen
607
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,920
Yeah, jake keeps trying to talk about his problems to me and I just yeah, we don't have time we're just like go see a therapist no
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Hello darkness my old friend
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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,040
I'm excited for seattle pride. Yeah
610
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Same yeah, maybe we'll uh do some live streaming out there. I don't know. What should I wear?
611
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,880
I don't know. We literally had like half of an episode talking about what we're gonna wear
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Like obviously, you know listen to homish one. Yeah
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I wore like regular human people clothes
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I don't want to like go straight up like lingerie or anything
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But I want to like I want to wear something a little spicy and fun. We're wearing a natural some t-shirts. That's for sure
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We are again. Yeah
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Do you still have yours?
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I do
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I thought we were supposed to I thought they were disposable
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I'd like signed mine and gave them to a fan in the crowd. No, you don't. Yeah with the candy. They're gone. They're gone
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00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,440
They bought it for the whole time
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00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,120
They're gone. They bought it for a lot of money
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00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,640
Two dollars two entire dollars two entire. Whoa, i'm actually wearing
624
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,720
Oh, yeah, that's right. You are wearing the one you made. Yeah
625
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,840
What's going on? Thank you. It doesn't say a natural someone yet. Oh, I have the letters downstairs
626
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,840
All I have to do is iron them on
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00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,800
Wow, maybe all crooked
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Yeah, so um
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Thanks for sticking around. We were just talking about pride
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