Flogging - But Why? - Unnatural To Some

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Now what? Flogging. Flogging Molly. Is that a

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band? It is. It is a band. Very famous song.

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What would you do with a drunken sailor? What

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would you do with a drunken sailor? What would

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you do with a drunken sailor early in the morning?

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Really? That song. They sung that song. Pretty

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sure that's the. Fact check it right now. Check

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me. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, is that the next topic?

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Oh, yeah. You're you're the next topic. You're

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the next topic. You bring up the next topic.

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OK, so blogging, blogging. I was confused with

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vlogging. Yeah. That. Or jogging or blogging.

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We're talking about vlogging. F and the V are

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very close on the keyboard. Yeah. Yeah, they

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are actually right next to one like I'm going

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to look up the logging and they like accidentally

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hit F and V and then it's flogging and it's you're

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in a completely different realm. Yeah. So logging.

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I went to a flogging class and this class was

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a in -person hands -on class. It was taught by

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one second Russell Harmon who has been teaching

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BDSM related topics for 26 years now. He also

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runs I believe two of his own porn sites that

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are very BDSM. focused. So he's been in this

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for a really long time. Very knowledgeable. Yeah.

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So. I like. Logging and. Let's take a class on

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it. Vlogging Seattle. Oh, I have an immediate

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question. Or can I ask you a question immediately?

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What's the difference between flogging? Spanking.

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The flogging spanking. What's the difference?

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Are they the same? You flogging and spanking?

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Yeah. Are you asking J or J? Well, J is the J

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took the class. Well, it's the difference. Yeah.

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So flogging is going to you're going to use.

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A flogger. Spanking, you can. you can use your

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hand or really, I can kind of think anything.

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Yeah, like you're going to use like paddle a

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hand airbrush a wooden spoon. I think a belt

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like spanking is there's a lot but like if you

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go to a BDSM website, you're going to if they

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sell what's known as impact tools or play they're

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going to have a category that's going to say

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floggers and in that you're going to have your

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Kind of I wish I would like should have had mine

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to be like, this is a flogger. We're going to

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Photoshop. Yeah. So Jenny just flip Photoshop

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this and this is a flogger. Got it. Good. You

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got. OK. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Future Jenny.

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You got that. Yeah. Yeah. Are you sure about

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that? You sure about that? That's why I don't

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get it. Yeah, no, that's um, that's my that's

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that's my understanding of it Spanking also like

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when you say spanking like I was specifically

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imagining your butt blogging is You can flog

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many different body parts, but when you say flogging

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like my mind goes to back I think typically like

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you went on a corn, a website and typed in like,

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I don't know, whatever gets flogged. The www

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blog, my bare bottom. Sorry, I just bought the

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rights to that website. My bare bottom dot com.

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But but no, so that's that's my understanding

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of it. And you use a blogging. Yeah. Interesting.

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So in your class did they like teach you like

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how to properly flog someone like Yep, how to

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properly get flogged. Where were you at on in

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this class like? recipient So it is a it is a

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couple's class and then it's like highly encouraged

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as you switch so Even if you are a like a dominant

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like he's still very much recommended like switching

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to that one like the submissive would see like

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how does it like going through the motions of

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like flogging someone and also the dominant would

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then kind of feel what it's like to be like flogged

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but um but yeah no so you took turns um so everyone

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learned both like how to be a bottom and also

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how to be a top, which that is that is what they

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called it. Like the person flogging is the top

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and the person getting flogged is the bottom.

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Interesting. I agree with that, though, like

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I feel like I feel like if you're going to be

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both exploring that play and new to it, you should

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know how it feels. So you're not like hurting

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your partner. And they're new to it, too. So

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they might be like, oh, this pain's normal. And

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they're actually like really hurting themselves,

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you know, like. I agree with that. Yeah, it was

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a great class. It was it was a little it was

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a little weird for me to be in like a building

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like during the day. I think the class started

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at 1230 the after. And yeah, there's a group

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of us just like flogging each other. And there's

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like there's like this like a little curtain.

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Right. So like you're kind of in the back room.

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But like people are like walking down. It's like

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downtown Seattle. They were like walking past

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and like you can hear the door like opening and

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people coming in and you just hear like, wow,

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like 10 people logging somebody. So it's like,

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oh, my God. And you're like, all right. All right,

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teams switch. Someone walks by the building and

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the door opens and they're like, what the hell

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is going on in there? This isn't where I parked

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my car. I don't know why, but when you talk about

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flogging, I think about this one old YouTube

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video of like these like guys and this guy comes

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out of nowhere and he has this whip and he's

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like, you better quit that whipping. And he just

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like whips his whip on the ground. And then and

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then his friends, I have whips and they're like,

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what whip it? And they're just like all whipping

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whips on the ground. It's just really. And I

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forgot what it was like a balloon workshop YouTube

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or something. I don't remember. I swear you've

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seen this back in the day. It was like original

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YouTube, like funny stuff. But I'll continue.

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Continue with your education. So it was a three

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hour class. He would kind of go over a technique

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and then we would go and try it and then we would

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come back. He would walk around and like give

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like tips and stuff. And then, yeah, we would

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come back talk about it and then like move on

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to the next technique. I will say like there

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is dear God, there is a because you think it's

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like, oh, yeah, like anyone can, you know, like

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whip someone's back like that's that's easy.

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And it's like, not really. It's there actually

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is like a skill to it. because so one let me

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like let me back up a little bit like why why

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would someone want to be flogged and we kind

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of went over this so it is a endorphin release

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so a lot of people do get high off of this obviously

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you have the power exchange a lot of people do

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this to feel strong on both sides so like the

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bottom you know he mentioned like He's a switch.

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So he likes both and he's like, you know, I want

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to feel awesome after being flogged like because

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it's so like, oh yeah, like I'm a badass. I just

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took that. There's also there's also like an

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emotional release a lot of times, but also you're

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kind of building a deeper connection between

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you and your partner. So because there's a lot

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of a lot of trust and a lot of communication

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that goes into doing a scene like this. Yeah,

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I'm going into one. Yeah, it is. It's just fun.

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It's fun to do. It's a great way to make friends.

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That's a. That is true. That is true. I mean,

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I'm sure if you go to classes and someone else

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is into it, too, you could make friends. Oh,

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I wasn't joking. Oh, yeah, 100%. And I mean.

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I mean, this depends on where you live. But if

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you live in a place like Seattle, there's there's

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always like dungeon parties and stuff where you

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can go and try to do what's like called like

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pick up play. Like you go without a partner and

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you try to pick somebody up to either top or

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bottom or whatever. Like I personally, I do not

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do that. I have my partner that I play with,

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but whatever floats your boat. It's funny that

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you gesture to your side and BB. Whatever with

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your droid is right there down the ground. Whatever

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floats your boat. Whatever floats your boat,

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even if it's a little Star Wars robot. Whatever

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floats. BB8, what do you think? Whatever throats

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your throat. Whatever throats your throat. Oh,

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God. Oh, geez. Oh, geez. But yeah, we went over

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where to hit. So kind of a very basic summary.

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You want to hit areas that have a lot of fat

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or a lot of muscle and also avoid obviously joints

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the spine any complex movement areas like for

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instance like your shoulders and stuff and obviously

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your kidneys which I highly recommend looking

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up anatomy photo of like where your kidneys are

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because I ate anatomy on your back on your back

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it is on your back but like where is it? I don't

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know. Oh, also, I have a question. I noticed

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that avoid places that balls weren't on there.

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Do people like getting flogged on their private

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parts? So, OK. Oh, yeah. Is that was that covered

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in this class? So this was the entry level flogging

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class. But he did mention he was like, you could

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technically flog anywhere on the body except

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for like someone's eyeball. And that was his

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it's what he said. Oh boy. So But he was like

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you you just have to Be very specific on like

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what tools you're using and also how like how

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to do it. So there's a lot There's so much that

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goes into the don't want to permanently hurt

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someone Yeah, we we just want to we just want

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to you know Smack the balls a couple of times

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not not we want to feel a little pain for a little

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bit not for a lot of exactly however And we're

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not covering this this podcast, but there is

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some people that like they're, you know, destroyed,

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crushed, crushed by a rolling heel, as someone

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would say. Oh, so like he he did mention like

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in very sensitive body parts like so they're

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called the falls. So it's like the dangly parts

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of a flogger, right? I don't. Falls. Just imagine

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these are false. So like if you're dealing with

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a very sensitive part of the body, like instead

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of using all the leather falls, like maybe just

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take one and then just be like, ah, ah, like

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smacking them with it. And there's also like

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different parts of like, depending on where you're

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hitting and like what your intentions are, you

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can change at what part of the arc the falls

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are going to hit. So like, God, this is like

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way too technical for those podcasts, but like

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So like the falls, right? So you think about

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like an arch, right? And like you want the falls

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or like maximum energy transfer to like hit like

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right at the end of the arch. But you can interrupt

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the arch and hit like halfway. So there's not

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as much like transfer. And then there's like

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happening. You could pop people with floggers.

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And then there's like whole like stinging versus

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thumping. God and yeah, different materials and

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different thicknesses. There's so much that goes

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into it. It's it's kind of crazy. Wow. That is

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a lot. Sign me up. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're

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experienced in flogging already, my dear. Yeah,

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I know. Yeah. So some tips here that I wanted

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to share with everyone, like one, highly recommend

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looking up where to hit and where not to hit.

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Communication is key. Again, you want this open

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dialogue between the top and the bottom to really

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understand what feels good. So for instance,

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we kind of covered this in the class. even your

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like shoulder positions for the bottom is going

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to make a world of difference. So like if your

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arms up are like up above you versus like down

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like head level versus like I don't know like

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your elbows tucked in like your shoulder blades

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are completely in different positions and everyone

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is different and something that feels really

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really good to the person next to me like oh

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like it feels amazing when my hands are above

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my head. I didn't like it. And I'm like, nope,

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like I like to be in this position, like up against

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the brick wall of a building during broad daylight

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of Seattle. So like your body in different positions

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is going to be kind of crazy. So have that open

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communication. Practice like God, it is there's

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so much. more that goes into it than people think.

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So like you want all your falls to like, like

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hit in a very precise location. So he actually

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with his like partner that was there, he actually

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drew like smiley face frowny face on like different

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parts of her back. And then he was like, so I'm

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going to go through like a an exercise where

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I'm going to just go like hitting like each smiley

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face and avoiding the frowny faces and I'm like,

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Okay, that looks easy. And then you try it and

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you're like, Oh God, like, Nope, that's hard.

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He also mentioned like at home, he will practice

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with like his light switch. So like literally

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like popping the lights like on and off crazy.

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He did mention that if you are renting, you will

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most likely be leaving a little black like specs

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or like pops into the paint. So Be aware of that.

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Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, you're going to

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want to stretch, really stretch your shoulders.

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Be mindful. If you're at the top, you're going

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to wear your shoulders out pretty quickly. You

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don't want to do permanent shoulder energy. Sorry,

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not energy. Permanent shoulder damage. And then,

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yeah, if you can 100 % go to a physical store

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like that, does sell like legit like BDSM gear,

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pick up different floggers, they're going to

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weigh differently. And then he recommended like,

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if you're going to be flogged, I just holding

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out your like arm and like right here on the

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forearm just like pop yourself a few times and

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be like, does that feel good? Or does that not

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and kind of like test out, you know, flogger

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that way. But yeah, there's a whole science of

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like how long your flogger should be dependent

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on like your body size and like how heavy do

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you want it to be? The thickness of the falls,

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the material of the falls. Oh, my gosh, it's

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insane. But if you want to just get started,

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you can make it a lot simpler than that. But

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yeah, if you have a chance and you're interested

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in those, I highly recommend going and taking

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a class at your local. Dungeon. On your local

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dungeon. I don't know. It was it was a great

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it was a great time. I learned a shit ton. There's

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a lot more in that goes into it. It's kind of

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crazy. Yeah, sure. You have like a frickin book

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worth of knowledge to pass on to our audience

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members. I did a thought think of something.

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It's when you're saying floggers come in all

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different sizes. I've experienced different size

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floggers and some of them. That's why you do

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the arm thing because like if you're if you just

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go straight for like the booty or something and

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You don't like it. Oh boy. Does it hurt? So just

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saying like testing on your arm. That's a good

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idea. That's a good idea I should probably have

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done that before Yeah But just yeah be safe while

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flying I just want to get spanked Make that happen