Is it Gay to like Trans Women? - Unnatural To Some

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So I have a very kind of interesting thing to

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bring up the overall. Oh, I'm sure. Um, so the

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overall kind of question is, and I'll kind of

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like get into the backstory about like why I'm

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bringing this up in a second, but if a male is

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attracted to a trans female, Like obviously there's

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a lot of like comments online saying oh, they're

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gay blah blah blah blah The question is is that

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person queer which is kind of separate and LGBTQ

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So falling under the queue and not the G is The

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person is the male who's attracted to trans females

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queer That's a good question. Oh, yeah, okay

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Yeah. Going into that a little bit. Um, so I

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was asked like, Hey, Jay, would you data trans

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female? And I was like, yeah, like, you know,

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obviously this is a very ridiculous question

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because I'm married. Um, but I was like, yeah,

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like if I found them attracted and we were clicking,

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like, yeah, I would. And I'm like, well, what

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if they still had like, you know, things downstairs?

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And I'm like, Yeah, like they would have to be

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communication. They're like, hey, like I'm not

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used to this stuff in the basement. I think more

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so like driving, you know, driving a stick, which

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I used to drive a manual back in the day, but,

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you know, how to handle her. Yeah, I know how

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to handle things. I know the heart. My dad taught

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me how to drive manual. Yeah, exactly. Like I

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had to drive on a manual, you know, but. Um,

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but I was like, yeah, you know, like there would

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have to be some like communication there. And

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I'd be like, it was going to be a little awkward,

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but like, it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Like

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if I'm like, I find the person attracted, attractive

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and like we're clicking, that would not be a

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deal breaker. And that's when they were like,

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Oh, well you're not straight then. And I was

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like, but like trans females are females. So

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like, how does that work? And they're like, well,

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Yeah, like you're not gay, like no one's saying

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you're gay, but you're not straight. So you fall

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under the bucket of like, um, of queer, which

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I had to like, look this up. Um, and according,

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according to like P flag, uh, within the community,

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the term queer has come to mean anyone who doesn't

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identify under rigid, uh, binaries of either

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straight or gay. It's an umbrella term for sexual

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gender minorities. The term can be resented.

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Uh, uh, presented as a kind of freedom and acceptance,

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which allows space for individuality and acknowledges

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each person's sexuality and identity is different

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from everyone else. I was like, so basically

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just like a giant catchall of like, Hey, if you're

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not like attracted to biologically created emails

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and you could be, I don't know anyways. What

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do you guys think? I'm very interested in this

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in this kind of debate That is interesting So

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do you want to go first Nikki? Do you have something

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to say that you might forget if I don't let you

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go? I mean, I mean, I mean obviously I have a

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bias, you know, I go for I think like, you know,

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like I consider myself a woman I think if a guy's

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into me and he's says he's only into women I

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just kind of like alright. Well, you know, it's

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Yeah, you're you're into me, you know, leave

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it as it is. Like I don't don't really care.

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Yeah, I have I like me personally. I don't care

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too much about labels like I just like what I

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like. Somebody likes me. I'm not too worried

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about what else they like. You know. I'm not

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worried about their label. I'm not worried about

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my label. You know. I just think you're kind

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of engineered to be attracted to what you're

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attracted to. That makes sense. Yeah. I agree

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with that for sure. But at the same time, I'm

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like, you know, the guy's into me and he claims

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to only be into women, claims to only be straight,

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you know. You know, sure. Yeah. Take the validation,

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you know, just suck it up through a straw. I

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agree with that. I think if you are a straight

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male and you like people that are female identifying

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or feminine in nature, then you can still consider

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yourself straight. If you'd like to claim, you

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know, take under That's You know term queer that's

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totally fine as well. It's it's just a label.

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It's not something that You know defines you

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as a person, right? It's not like I'm You know,

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I'm I'm the T and LGBT, you know, like QIA, you

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know, just not that's not me That's not my whole

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personality. I am trans. That's just one part

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of me and I Take that label. I could just be

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like, you know what? I don't want to be trans.

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I just I don't want to like have that label.

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I just want to be me. I'm me, you know? You are

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you at the end of the day and you'll be you only

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once for what we know, so. Unless you want to

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be somebody else. Yeah, like if you want to be

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queer, be queer. Totally be queer. Well, if you

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want to be straight. Then yeah, you can be straight

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like if you like if you're liking. For instance,

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a man, if you're a male and you like people that

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are presenting as female, I would consider you

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straight. If we're getting down to the nitty

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gritty of things, vice versa, visa versa for,

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you know, opposite gender. Either way, like it

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sounds like you're you're you're feminine attracted.

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Yeah. Which to me, this was like I kind of like

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started asking around. I was like. What do you

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think about this and it's like really interesting

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like everyone's it's like split like half of

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the people are like Like yeah, like It doesn't

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it doesn't really like matter like you're you're

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straight like you're attracted to the females

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right and then the other half are like Well,

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if you find out that they are trans and that's

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okay with you then like you're not really straight

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So yeah, I guess you would be queer and it's

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like I even asked because I'm on like a pride

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committee. I was like What do you guys think

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about this? And everyone's like, Oh, my gosh,

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Jay's queer. Yay. He's like no longer an ally.

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He's a part of that. And I'm like, Oh, God. Oh,

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gosh. OK. OK. They took they took you as advocating

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for coming out. Yeah, I don't know. I think they

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were just kind of like excited. But I I don't

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really got something new. Yeah. Oh, my God. Something

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the gossip about at work. Oh, maybe. Maybe that's

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it. But, um, but no, I and it's also kind of

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silly because, like, like I said, I am married,

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so it's not like I'm looking for, like, other

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partners or anything like that. So, like, I don't

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really need the label. I think I think, yeah,

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like, those kind of help you in, like, the dating

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realm of, like, yeah, I'm straight, but it's

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like. It's kind of like a silly point, but I

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do think this is something that like other people

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kind of struggle with, like, oh, like, oh, yeah,

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that's a good if I watch, like, trans porn, does

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that make me gay? You know, like. But you made

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a very valid point, like when you're dating,

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the label is kind of a little bit important for

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others, you know, just to help. You know, but

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when you're already with someone, the label isn't

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very important anymore. You shouldn't be You

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you shouldn't be using the label to discover

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who you are as a person. It's just what I'm trying

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to say. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like when you

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go by, like when you're trying to buy a new car

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and the sales persons, like, what are you looking

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for? You know, like it helps narrow it down,

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like, oh, I'm looking for like a sports car or

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like a minivan. Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of like

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the same thing in dating. But if you're already

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like married and you're looking to like add another

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to the relationship, then it's like. Doesn't

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really matter. It's just a label. I don't know

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Yeah, people are obsessed with labeling things

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This type of person yeah, I know some people

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that like to label things so much like they'll

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label pickle jars, they'll label your socks,

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they'll label your drawers. Okay, I did that

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as a joke one time, okay? I was like, where is

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this going? Each individual sock, yes, labeled

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left, right. And I don't know why it's labeled

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left and right because you can put them on either

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foot, but they're labeled that way. I have a

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strange sense of humor and in way too much time.

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Yes, I think we do. I will say there was I saw

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like something online that was a dominatrix for

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like public humiliation like made their sub like

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labeled their left shoe and right shoe like on

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the back of the shoe. So like everyone could

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see like this is my left shoe. This is my right

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shoe as like a wow. Yeah. OK. I was like, wow,

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that's like very subtle. Also, I don't know if

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anyone's going to notice, but I don't know. Nikki,

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maybe you kind of maybe heard this like sadistic

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dominant, like dominatrix that wants to label

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everything. Me sadistic. It's very labeling labeling,

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though. Oh, yeah, I'm all about labeling anyway.

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I love labeling except except for people. But

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as far as as far as like category categorization

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in the household for organization give me a label

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maker and I Will annoy the piss out of you nice

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Yeah What do you think in the chat comment down

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below? Do you think? Males who are are attracted

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to trans females. Do you think they're straight?

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Gain queer what are your thoughts?